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Roly Gregoire in his own words

‘Sometimes I wish I’d never played football’

When we were writing Football’s Black Pioneers we were keen to get first hand accounts of their experiences from as many of ‘our’ pioneers as possible. We had some notable successes, tracking down Calvin Symonds to his home in Bermuda was a notable one. But some proved particularly elusive, Roly Gregoire, Sunderland’s first Black player, was one of the most difficult to contact. As a lifelong Sunderland supporter, Bill Hern tried every trick he knew to trace Roly, but to no avail.

Now, at last, we can hear from Roly, now a Rastafarian with the name Jabari Muata Ta Seti, as, after forty-six years, he has opened up about his shocking experiences at the hands of racist so-called supporters of the team he briefly represented.

You can read Roly’s story as far as we were able to  establish it in 2022, in the Sunderland chapter of our book (still available via Amazon or any good bookshop!), but to hear about Roly’s experience in his own words, click on this link:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cz02gdm7zleo

Brighton Rock – The podcast

Bill Hern certainly gets around, this week he was ‘in’ Brighton – not literally of course, Bill is a law abiding citizen! He spoke to Russell Guiver and David Townsend who run the Brighton Rock blog. Funnily enough Russell and David are Brighton fans. Brighton Rock has been described as “Probably the best podcast you will hear concerning Brighton fc. Very insightful, hosted by a presenter who is passionate about our club.”

It didn’t take long for the conversation to get round to a discussion of Brighton’s first black player and it soon became evident that Dave Busby (for it was he) had slipped under the radar of both Russell and David. This is precisely why we felt it was important to write ‘Football’s Black Pioneers’ now before the contributions of players like Dave are completely lost to history.

You can listen to their wide-ranging discussion here:

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/footballs-black-pioneers-with-guest-bill-hern/id1504890714?i=1000499448132